Feedback take two

how effectively edited is this thriller?
There were some highly effective transitions, clever distortions of colour

Give an example of a section of effective editing or a single cut that you liked and explain why?
The shot with the feet is excellently edited. the effect of the colour contrast with sepia tone looks both creepy and artistic.

Discuss the use of sound in this thriller, both diegetic and non diegetic what emotions does it invoke and how effective is it?
There is no non diegetic sound but the sounds that you have created fits in well with the footage excellently. at different points of the music highlights key points in the footage which works really well.

What words would you use to describe the visual style? Give an example of effective use of either props, costume and location?
The scene in the forest was great, a good location to set a thriller which made it look very realistic
the props used such as rope adds a sense of realism.

Highlight at least three things that you think are good about this thriller. and two areas for development or suggestions of how things could have been done differently ?
Editing and colour is effective
good effects
music is good fits the pace and mood

more close ups would add suspense and make it more mysterious.
Titles could be more mysterious font ect.

Feedback take two

Individual Analysis

Overall I think that our finished product was successful, i feel we spent our time wisely. We where very presice about the way we wanted our thriller sequence to look to an audience. Although we couldn't get the exact music we wanted within the time we got an end result which worked very well.
At the started when we was planning our sequence tittle we had an idea that we thought would be easily done but as we got further through the project we realised that it wasen't going to be so easy.
To start we wanted to get a sound of the heart beating in the background music, but we could not get a beat close enough to this so we decided to make our own music and build up tension through out our thriller, making the audience think about what is going to happen next. I liked our titles as they made it look more thriller like and didn't move aournd the screen. We also made sure that they were not too big and just the right size, We made our tittle sequence's name big so it is obvious its the name.
Camera angles, we used panning to show the dead body this was used quite a bit before the flashbacks. Close-ups where used so it wasen't clear who the killer or victim was, we also used behind shots to show this.
Editing, was used alot but in a good way. We used sepia to give the black and white effect to our flash backs. To get our flashbacks we used transistions and put a white screen in between to amke our flashback work. We also used fading tranistions to fade our begining and ending titles. We also sped up and slowed down a few shots, to make them more effective.
Generic Convections are themes that make a thriller what it is. In our thriller we used generic convections. There is alot of violence, this shows that is it a thriller using shots such as; Tying up hands or hand covering mouth. A death is usally within a thriller, we had a body and used panning to gradually showing the body. Flash back where to show what had happened in the day before the death. I think our thriller was very well done to communitcate the generic convections of a thriller.

Final Thriller

our rough cut

final feedback

Questions we asked:
1.Do you understand whats happening?
Most of the people we asked answered yes, they understood it was based on three girls that go missing and that it may be a carry on of the last girl.
2.What are any improvments?
One group were confused about the suspects and which one could have been the killer. some didnt like the close up of the mouth at the end and think the scream could have been cut out to leave the final girl talking. It was also commented that too may flashes were used and there were not enough location shots. The title could also have been smaller.
3.What worked well?
The voice overs especially at the end and the photoframe shot was effective. The suspect pictures and missing shots worked really well especially with the girl talking over at the end.
background noises worked well, girl talking at the end carried it on.
4.What didnt work well?
Titles too big.
5.What is/isnt effective with the sound?
Fits really well with the whole feel of the piece. real voices and sirens used were clear end effective. fits well and effective.
6.Any further questions?
How did you do the voice overs?

Reply To Thriller Feedback

We thought overall our feedback was good and we are very pleased. We agree with alot of the feedback and criticisms as we to think that certain shots look out of place, such as; The mouth covered up shot and shadow shot. We are also pleased that they understood that we were trying to hind the identity of the killer and victim.

Thriller Feedback

1. Does the music fit with the sequence?
-Not really a bit too up beat but not bad.
- Yes fitted in really well.
- Seemed a little up beat.

2. What themes does it communicate to you?
- Gothic themes because of the forest.
-Abduction, Killing
-Murder, kidnapping

3. which one shot would you remove and why?
- the one with the girl covering her mouth, didn't understand
- Shadow shot seemed bit irrelevant

4. How would you describe our visual style?
-Good red filter effect


5. What was effective?
-The speed change
-Shot of the hands and effects on it, the flash in between shots
-The flash-backs, the door, shot of hands on the wall.

6.Which generic conventions of the thriller were included?
-Dead body, quick shots, not giving away the identity of the person
-Quick shots, colour used.

TITLES..

These are titles that we may be using in our sequence:

A Final Cut Production Presents

A ......... Film

Staring:
*Ellie Hesketh*.
*Sophie Marsh*.
*Hester..*.
*Sophie Hind*

Costume Design By ......

Art Direction By ........

Production Design By ......

Casting By ..........

Film Editing By .........

Cinematography By .........

Original Music By ........

Produced By ..........

Directed By ..........

Generic Conventions

Generic conventions are the themes that make a thriller what it is. Examples are, edge of your seat suspense, the flawed character, the gaze(seeing things you shouldn't and being watched), located in a safe environment to play on your fears and phobias, use of creepy music, enigma that needs to be solved.

Editing priorities

Things we need to focus on are:

Adding in audio to compliment the action within the thriller, and to add suspense.

Improve on the editing by adding in the transistions so the linking between clips is smoother.

We need to add in effects, such as other sounds, slow down and speed up some clips and add in the titles.

Response to feedback

Overall our feedback was really good. We didn't get any bad comments which we are really impressed about. Due to lack of time for rough cutting, we didn't manage to add any sound or transitions. These would have helped to make our sequence make more sense. The feedback which was helpful was the idea to add in non-diegetic sounds, such as when people are struggling, footsteps and wind etc... These would make out thriller more realistic and interesting.

Rough Cut Feedback

Editing:
Faily well edited, some bits when the time between the shots was a bit long.
there was some really good cuts.
the editing of the footage into sepia tone at some points was highly effective.
well done

Camerwork:
captures something in every shot
no pointless shots - all adds to the story
wicked running shot with the knees

Sound:
unfortunately there is no soundtrack
Add non-diegetic sounds such as footsteps, wind, struggerling etc.

mise en scene:
mysterious - good use of props; rope, stick etc.
good location
good effects
fits generic conventions
costume - made it more obvious who is the killer
good contrast between slow and fast paced shots

Narrative:
mystery - which characters are which; victim or villain
violence - hand over mouth, stuggerling, tying up shots.
Death - shots of the "dead" body

Teacher Feedback

Your blog needs a bit more work, including a full analysis of a student and real thriller opening from everyone in the group. Also some research into your mise en scene would be useful, i.e. clips from other films that inspire you would be ideal. Think of your blog as a production scrapbook.
I am also concerned that your ideas are over ambitious, i.e. how do you intend to film cut wrists etc?
It might be worth sitting down as a group and revisit the ideas process, come up with a clear idea of what you are trying to achieve. I am concerned you are struggling a little. Lets talk next lesson.

filming schedule

this is our schedule for filming in the next few lessons. hopefully none of our filming will require us to go off site.
Day 1: shooting cafe scene within college
Day 2: filming victim scene in media studio
Day 3: shooting running scene and street scene
Day 4 : shooting close ups of weapons, faces, eyes and finishing any filming that hasn't yet been completed.

our animatic

here is a rough example of our storyboard as an animatic

Planning

For our filming we will need a camera, costumes, fake blood...
We will need to film at various different locations so we get the best effects. Such as in the media studio, in a cafe and in a forest. Most of this can be done on the Long Road site.
We are not going to film at the weekends as many of us have work. However we are going to film as much as possible during the lessons and after college.
Costumes will need to be everyday clothing (except for the joggers) and victims clothing will be ripped and blood stained.
Props will need to be fake blood, water bottle, knives/weapons, mobile phone, cafe props e.g. bill...

Shot list

shot 1: Camera begins panning showing part of victim body mainly hand and wrist in this shot.

Shot 2: Camera moves down towards the victims wrist, revealing cuts.

Shot3: Goes into flash back shot, wide shot showing victim bumping into other person.

Shot4: Close-up of mysterious person eyes.

Shot5: Back to the victims body, revealing tattoo arm and neck.

Shot6: Flash back of sitting with friend in cafe, smiling and laughing.

Shot7: Close-up of bill

Shot8: Tracks back to persons friends seeing a sinister smile on her face.

shot9: Back to body, pans from neck back down to torso.

Shot10: Flash back, friends running through forest together. Person peering behind the tree.

Shot11: Second runner goes missing, other runner looks scared and shocked. close-up of face.

Shot12: Close-up of victims face but not revealing identity.

Shot13,14,15,16: each shot is a close up of eyes, knife, person being smuthered, dead body and cuts on neck. All of these are edited very quickly to build up tension.

shot17: Fades in from black, reveals film title.

Analysis of students sequence called 'the reckoning'

This sequence used alot of good techniques to make it seem professional and it fitted in with the thriller theme.
one of its strongest points was the music, as the fast pace helped to create tension and add to the action.it slowly speeds up and is differnent to other thrillers as it doesnt try and make the clip to sinister it compliments the action and looks similar to something u may find in a spy thriller a bit like james bond.
The different camera angles where some came from underneath or very close up added interest and let the audiance see things in detail from differnt angles. The way that you cant fully see everthing as it is in black and white adds intrege.
The shaky camera work made it seem frantic amd obvious tht there is some sort of chase and the whole sequence helps to set the scene and gives some indication of what this film is going to be like. you are also introduced to the characters and can see what role they may play in the film. eg boy in suit seems to be an important character but u are not sure if he is the villian or hero just yet.
night vision effect makes it seem spooky and gives the feeling that they are being watched perhaps on cctv.

ellie and sophie.m

Ideas for opening sequenece:
Sound: Heart beat; beating and long beeping of heart moniter when the person has stop beating. Fades into music.

Scenes: Starting from the end going into the begining, someone lieing dead camera slowing panning from feet to head of the body, showing any injuriges. Flash backs of past showing suspects that have been in her normal day life within that day. e.i peson bumping into her. Suspects are the other three main charcters in the main film. going from her being dead to being alive in a normal day life sequence.

Analysis of surface opening sequence

Analysis of surface:

good use of spooky graphics eg blood effects
close ups and shakey effects made it more realisic and mysterious.

titles and music worked well and was definitly obvious that it was the opening credits of a thriller.

critism: was a little too long
slightly boring as there wasnt much change didnt build up much tension as it didnt give or start any kind of plot.

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